Lori Esery: Wellness is a practice, not just a word.
Kelly Engelman: Welcome to the Synergee Podcast, where myself, Kelly Engelmann and Lori Esarey shed light on powerful tools and topics that nourish your body,
Lori Esery: and most importantly, feed your soul.
Kelly Engelman: We are so excited you guys are back, Synergee listeners. You’re gonna love this podcast. You’re gonna fall in love with Sabrina. We’re so excited we got to capture her heart and soul today in today’s podcast.
Lori Esery: So a little bit about Sabrina Ciceri. She sees medicine through a different lens and represents an evolution in healthcare, shifting the disease centered focus of medicine to a more preventative approach.
Recently she fulfilled a lifelong dream by opening Immunity Health, a company that offers treatments like IV therapy, functional medicine, bioidentical hormone therapy, cryotherapy, hyperbaric, and red light therapy microneedling with plant-based stem cells and much more. All designed to help clients achieve a stronger immune system and look and feel their best inside and out. Her vast experience in the healthcare field was the driving force behind opening this innovative company. You guys are gonna love Sabrina.
Kelly Engelman: So we’re bringing in Sabrina today from Immunity Health. Sabrina, tell us your story.
Sabrina Ciceri: Oh boy. I don’t know where to begin. There’s so many stories. Being in my fifties now, there’s a lot to tell. But, I was thinking just the other day how when I first visioned what I wanted to do long-term, it was a wellness center, it was in 1993, and I was talking to the girl that was doing a pedicure on me, and I was telling her one day I dreamed of having a wellness center just starting into nursing. I saw things that didn’t seem like it felt right, didn’t totally align, one met after the other nobody feeling better. I just started learning and reading more things and just kind of followed that path I went down lots of different avenues through the years to get to where finally in 2020, we opened that center and it’s expanded with the services that we offer and the reach that we have with helping people. It’s getting rolling.
Kelly Engelman: So you started your career in nursing. I love that, you’re a nurse. And you saw things in medicine that just weren’t adding up even back in 1993.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yes. Yeah.
Kelly Engelman: Yeah. So walk us through the timeframe between 93 until that 2000. Cuz you did some things in the fitness industry too, right?
Sabrina Ciceri: Yes. I started with the help of my mother a fitness center. A fitness studio. It was first in the only little personal training studio there because we felt like there was a need for people that were afraid to go to the gym and they wanted more one-on-one, and they didn’t wanna feel embarrassed being around muscle heads or sometimes it feels like a meat market in some of the gyms. So we created a safe place for people. We ended up helping meal prep and doing all kinds of things, coaching, and that actually opened up another door. It’s unique how you look back and when you’re starting something, you don’t really know how it’s gonna happen, but you just follow through with faith and the old saying that the people that you need to know are already there, you just have to keep your eyes open and keep believing because doing the fitness center, when I got out of nursing led into starting a column at a local magazine called Ask Sabrina.
And then that led into us launching a healthy living magazine that was published for 10 years, about balanced living with financial, spiritual, mental, physical, which led me to the interview with a man that saved his life and. Told me about Hippocrates in the backyard here of Central Florida, here in South Florida. And then one thing just has just led to the other, you just keep walking out and you keep staying positive, even not knowing, I mean, my license was, I say only an LPN. I was a single parent, had a one-year-old daughter, and decided that that was the quickest, easiest way for me to have some freedom. As an only child living with my parents, I wanted to get away, so I got straight into LPN. And I kept thinking along the way, I’m not gonna get that far with this degree, but little pieces here and there, opened the door. I ended up being an administrator of a home health agency as an LPN. I don’t know how it actually happened, it God’s hand was in all of it, because I would get asked all the time though, so what school did you go to? And what credentials do you have? I’m like I don’t have a lot of that, but I got a lot of grit and hard work and I just meet the right people and as you say, working together, we work together and then little miracle magic happens all along the way.
Lori Esery: So I have had the privilege, Sabrina, of knowing you since high school, and I wanna say that you’ve had grit for a long time and it’s been such a privilege to watch you. Walk this out, and I love what you said about having a dream to have a wellness center. You were just having a pedicure, you said, right? And I wanna have a wellness center, but didn’t really know how that would manifest, and through just some opening of doors. And some probably slamming of windows or maybe just the opposite opening of windows and slamming of doors you entered into just each next step and that next step got you to the next step. I think it’s so incredible as we talk about empowering other women to walk it out and have faith. You obviously have passion and, I wanna know a little bit about where does this passion actually come from, because you have a heart of gold, so I gotta know a little bit more about that.
Sabrina Ciceri: Well, I don’t know exactly. I was raised with a very strong parent. My father, this is the land of opportunity, but nothing comes for free. You work hard, you can learn as you go to work smarter, but you put in the hard work. And I have strived through the years to keep balance. I have six kids too and four grandkids. And three cats and three dogs and let’s not forget all the parents and family, you know how that goes.
Lori Esery: I’m tired just listening to.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah, but you just keep moving and staying positive,
Lori Esery: but you have such a love for people. I have seen it, genuinely, deeply caring for the wellbeing of others. You see that in yourself, right?
Sabrina Ciceri: I do, it’s to a fault sometimes. Yes.
Lori Esery: So where does that come from?
Sabrina Ciceri: Sorry, this gets me emotional, for a second because, I think that more than even medical care supplementation, all of those things, people at the core need nurturing and love and support, and that’s where it starts. And I think that’s one thing that makes things a lot different with immunity in in our approach to everything it comes from, we give love first. We love them no matter what, no matter what they do and where they’re at, we try to meet ’em where they are and just encourage them and let them know that never lose hope, never give up on themselves. Never stop believing the bodies wonderfully made. And it can heal itself. You just mentally, spiritually, and physically have to connect. And it all starts with igniting that life force, not just with the nourishment that they’re getting, but with hugs and connection and an energy like that. And I think that’s what kind of sets us apart.
Lori Esery: And I think what you’re saying there is nourishing, we all talk about nourishing their bodies with food. But it’s nourishing their souls and connecting with them, and that speaks volumes as I’ve seen you around your patients. Absolutely. And it speaks to how instrumental you are in helping pass along that encouragement and seeing them reach their goals. Because you do, you speak a different language and it’s not the spoken word alone, it’s through your actions and as well.
Sabrina Ciceri: Thank you. Yeah, no, it’s very rewarding. It’s so exhausting sometimes, and anybody that’s in the healthcare profession understands the exhaustion. But then you wake up every day renewed again just by knowing that, I don’t know you guys all understand it. You just wake up renewed again and say, we got this. There’s people that need to know just more believing in themselves.
Kelly Engelman: I think Sabrina, that comes when you are living your passion. God is good. He renews us every day. And when you’re living in that passion and you wake up with that, just feeling fortified, right to go out and do it again, to go out and embrace people again.
But I also wanted to speak to your servant leadership. Lori and I, through Synergee, have had an opportunity to be on site at Immunity and watch you in action with your team as a businesswoman. It’s not easy to be a businesswoman, right? And I have seen you step up and really lean into your team in ways that are just profound.
Love them, meet them where they are, but also challenge them. How do you pull that off? Because I want more of that in my life.
Sabrina Ciceri: I don’t know. It’s funny because my kids all said I’m very close to my kids and they always called me the warden. You guys have helped me tremendously with steps and strategies and forms and things that have just really was the missing piece because I was doing the things that I knew to do, but now I have some backing that helps, but Generally, everywhere that I’ve worked, it’s hard to say something nice about yourself really, but I’ve always been complimented for the way that I’ve worked with my CNAs or with anybody. And I think the reason why that I have, cuz I do have a good team and I get complimented all the time about what a good team they call me mom. They really act like they love being there. But I don’t wanna say I tough love them sometimes. They absolutely know that I’m very direct and say what needs to be said, but I’m not a grudge holder. I say what needs to be said, but then we go on, I’m not holding on to it. I’m not passive aggressive with you later. They know that it’s coming from a good place, I think because they can see that I’m genuine in what I’m doing, that we’re trying to be excellent in caring for people and professional and clean, and they know that I want all these things done not to micromanage, but in a way for us to be a wonderful, outstanding place for people to come that want to hang out and they wanna be around us more. I think that’s what makes it a little bit different. We joke and we laugh and have fun, but I have people, they always hug me and they cry and hug me and tell me they love me when we sit down and have to do a writeup. And I think it’s just the approach cause they know I don’t want to do this. We’re doing this because immunity is here and it has to survive. And it has certain expectations. And when you interviewed you were this way and said this way. Now I just need you to be that person that you told me and that I saw in the beginning. I just kind of redirect him and motivate him. Somehow a write-up ends up getting me a hug too.
Lori Esery: Well, tough love is not an easy thing and it’s certainly not easy at work. It’s not easy in the home, but it really is even harder in the work area. And I agree with Kelly, you really do have a servant heart for God’s work and showing love, so, I wanna hear a little bit of, as you have grown over the years in this desire to help people nourish their heart and their souls, what is it about what you’re doing right now at Immunity has gotten you closer to really fulfilling your passion? What do you guys do there you haven’t been able to do before that’s getting you even closer to that dream of that passion and acting it out?
Sabrina Ciceri: Goodness.
Kelly Engelman: Because you’ve been in the fitness industry. So you did that and then you guys had a facility in which you did IV therapy, but it seems like what you have now is kind of the best of all of those places, if you will, that you now have one place, right?
Sabrina Ciceri: Yes. Well, the coming down to West Palm to do immunity, we were able to have the space to do, put everything there that I wanted to place. Before it was limited, so I had to pick and choose and I never felt like I was like a kid kicking my feet, I wanted more. So down here we had the space because I had been learning about epigenetics in the biohacking. And it was tying into different things you do when you can combine them and stack them, you make huge leaps. And I knew we were coming to a campus where people were in some critical condition, oftentimes, and they couldn’t take a slow approach. They had to move fast. So, I’m so happy that we have this space and of course I’ve added some things and I’m busting out the seams now cause they’re forever creating new stuff, but I think that has created what I want to be able to give a good impact for people, but also when they’re there, they’re spending more time. And I think the more time that they’re there, we’re able to, like I say, spend that time and give them more love and encouragement. They’re not just checking in, getting one thing and leaving. They’re spending more time there with us. And that’s been real beneficial for them and us.
Lori Esery: Right. So the therapies that you offer there now are what?
Sabrina Ciceri: Well, we have the IV therapy, the IV nutrients, which I’d like to always add this because it’s trendy and popular and so many people are doing IV therapy, but it may not be the safest. Therapies are vital nutrients are all preservative free. They’re never sourced from corn only, cassava, root, and yam. And we get people all the time that say, I can’t, our place doesn’t do that, but at least it’s better than nothing. And I explained to them, from what I know, that it isn’t good to put these synthetic things and it is causing more harm, it’s better to do none than to add something that’s going to decrease your immune system function. But anyway, I could go on about that. But the IV therapies, and then we’ve got the demi bed, which people love that’s the Vibroacoustic electromagnetic infrared bed. Many people will do an IV drip on that because that electromagnetic field will help drive those nutrients down deeper into the cell for more benefit, all the same time they’re meditating and getting in a parasympathetic state through some sound and vibration therapy. That’s a wonderful tool, and many people go from that to the hyperbaric, which most people know what that is, the oxygen therapy. And then they’ll finish with red light. We’ve got the Fairlight 360, which is an amazing machine, 45,000 red lights. That just does multiple things, killing free radicals. They lay in there like the old-timey tannin beds. At least I hope there’s not tannin beds out there anymore. We have the exercise with oxygen therapy. We’ve got a Hyper T Pro that does gets up to 190 degrees only from the neck down so that people that can’t tolerate infrared saunas because they feel like they can’t breathe with their head in their head stays out. So they still get that great detoxification. We’ve got aesthetic things too. Scarlet aquifer, we’ve got the cryo skin now. Things that help people on the outside too, they care about. I never wanna be a med spa, and when people will say something like that, it makes me cringe. I don’t wanna be a med spa, but I also have seen how much people’s identity are tied into hair loss and things like that. And we do want ’em to leave their feeling better inside and outside.
Lori Esery: And you service clients from not just there at Hippocrates Health Institute on property, but you also are there for a guest from all around your surrounding community. Is that correct?
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah, we have people coming from as far as I mean Miami for the local area. Fort St. Lucy, so they come from a two hour radius here and we’ve been having more and more calls as the website has the Google search and all that stuff has grown. People have called, and it just puts me in all that they say, I’m in Illinois, but I see that you have all these modalities and treatments and I want to come down there and get a motel and stay for like a month and come in every day and get treatments cause I’m struggling with this, I’m like, wow. And I tell ’em, I say, well, there might be places closer to you. And they check, they say, No, no, no. It’s not the same or they only have one thing or it’s only 5,000 lights, and I would rather come down there and just spend 30 days and do everything you have under one roof and it just makes me so happy, honors me that they found that, and that we are meeting the need for even people outside of here.
Lori Esery: I remember when I shared the concept with Kelly and I was so excited, I called her and I said, you wouldn’t believe it. There’s this one facility and it has all of these things. I’m like, Kelly, we’ve got to go this is like our playground for wellness, like we’ve gotta go. How Kelly?
Kelly Engelman: It truly is a playground, and I walked in there, my eyes were just like, I was a kid in a candy store. I couldn’t stop grinning and just looking around. And like, when do I get to play? Because having all of those modalities, a lot of that technology is European technology. You don’t see that around every corner. And to have it all in one place, to your point where people can come and enjoy the benefits and really gain some traction on their wellness journey, and then decide what do they want to take home, what do they want to embody to take home to perhaps use on an ongoing basis. Right? Because some of those things they can get in a portable fashion, to use as they continue to heal.
Sabrina Ciceri: No, they do. And I,
Kelly Engelman: and you guys have cryo too. You didn’t mention cryo.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah, that’s what I was forgetting to say. How did I forget that machine? Our largest investment was in this machine and it took us 12 months to get it from Germany. Cause they made it, especially for us. Our it’s a dual chambered, electric cryotherapy and it’s massive. And it took us forever to get that, but we love that machine too.
Lori Esery: So it’s world class and I could see why people travel from all over. I mean, I have no problem hopping in my car and coming three and a half hours to visit and would do it more often because of just the technologies. And not only that, I mean, once again, going back to you can have all of those modalities. You can have all of those services, but you can still have a facility that’s not worth going to if the team that you put together isn’t inviting, warm and desiring to nurture. So it’s not just what you’ve put together in the way of these resources, it really is everything together. So I just, I mean, hats off to you. I know that it is hard for you to take compliments. I can see your face. It’s hard. It’s hard to speak about yourself too, but incredibly proud of what you have done and are gonna continue to do because of your heart, your desire, your passion, your compassion. Can’t forget that, your compassion for people. It’s definitely infectious, Sabrina. It absolutely is.
Sabrina Ciceri: Thank you.
Kelly Engelman: So a birdie told me, That there’s a book coming out?
Sabrina Ciceri: Oh, yes. I have been write a book for a long time and I’m pushing to have it come out in May. It’s my first book that I’ve ever written, so I’ve probably overanalyzed it a lot, but it’s called, if It’s Not One Thing, it’s a Mother and it basically,
Kelly Engelman: I love the title. Did you come up with that title yourself?
Sabrina Ciceri: I did, it was actually one day when I was talking about. Something else my mom had done. This is me as an adult, I’m like, oh my gosh, if it’s not one thing, it’s a mother, it’s like, oh my gosh. But It’s just basically kind of relating to how it is to be a daughter and how you feel about your mother growing up and the many transitions along the way you’re first recognizing is that as you’re growing older, my mom’s not perfect and maybe I don’t wanna be just like her and then feeling guilty kind of for that. And then when I had my first child, my first child was a daughter and I remember thinking about, How I, I need to first do what mom taught me to do, but it’s like, wait a second. I think I wanna do it differently. And then feeling guilt over that and then growing through that, watching my daughter become a mother. And now how I feel as a grandmother. I’m the yaya in the family, but it’s just a book that really relates and understands women and it also kind of motivates and encourages them along the way. It’s basically, I’ve changed the direction of my life from the way that I was raised. I’ve taken what I found good in my mother and I love her very much, and I’ve put boundaries there as well for the things that I don’t wanna be co-dependent on and kind of let that feed into my life and she understands it and respects it, but it just helps people to understand. Kind of where they are. I’ve kind of taken it through the stages. It’s basically how health, faith, and I am an old school parenting style. How that’s gotten me through and shaped my life is what the book’s about.
Lori Esery: So once again, being an inspiration. To other women. And I can imagine not only women because I’m certain that there will be men who would find this book helpful as well, but an inspiration all the while to your readership and just again, the impact. So I can’t wait to read it and that is an actual super cool title.
Sabrina Ciceri: Super cool. Thank you.
Kelly Engelman: So I just have to ask any insight on why as women, there’s so much guilt around. Our relationships with our moms and oftentimes our daughters.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah. Well, there’s lots of pressure. I think, at least for myself, pressure that if I did anything different than the way that mom had done it, that it would be in some form of disrespect. And I’m a firm believer. I respect my parents. I even, when I disagree with them, I respect them. So I think you feel that way. And then, from what I saw in my friends raising kids that I never did fall into was, how much that they feel the pressure that they need to be their friend. I wasn’t put on this earth to be my children’s friend, that wasn’t the role that I was here to play. I love them, nurture them, guide them, and I do have fun with them. I mean, we theme park, we play Uno, we do the fun things it’s not that you can’t do that, but I’m not crossing the line and trying to become a friend and wanna hear the details of the intimate details of a date or, I just think that the children growing up today need less of their moms to be a friend and more of them to be strong and feel confident that they can be the mother. You never get too old to be a mother, I’m 51 and still need a mother, so I just think we need to hold onto that and not feel guilty.
By not saying, well, we’re grown. My daughter says it to me all the time, I’m an adult daughter now. I’m like, we, you are, but you’re still my child and if I see you doing something wrong, I’m gonna be advising you differently.
Kelly Engelman: I love it. Did you hear that? Our daughters, we have daughters too. So I hope you’re listening into this podcast. Sabrina just gave me permission. To still be your mom.
Sabrina Ciceri: That’s right. They have to respect. My daughters slipped up the other, I don’t know, a couple months ago, and she’s even saying a cuss word, which I’m not gonna say, you have to be legalistic. But she said something, I’m like, I beg your pardon. And she’s like, mom, I’m 31. I’m like, I don’t care. I don’t wanna hear that on my baby girl’s mouth. Don’t say that.
Lori Esery: They really do need that loving correction from people that do adore them and wanna see the best in them. Right? As a mom, we wanna see. The best in our children. But I do see what you’re talking about, about, you know, how oftentimes we, as, when we become moms, we want to mimic what we saw growing up. Or in fact when we feel like we don’t do that, perhaps we’re gonna upset them because we’ve chosen to do things differently. And even when being questioned that questioning. Isn’t always about questioning in a negative way. Maybe it’s just creating dialogue, but I could see how it can be offensive, you’re asking me why I’m doing this? Is it because you don’t like what I’m doing or it’s because you really wanna know? So making sure we’re keeping dialogue of when we are having those conversations. It’s not that we necessarily always disagree, perhaps it’s just that we want to understand more. We wanna be a part of their lives. We wanna be there for them to lean on. We wanna be a safe place that they can still land. Like you said, regardless of you being, 50, I’m not gonna say my age, but I still need my mama too, and I’m so blessed to still have my mama.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yes. No, exactly. You and I think that you don’t be so hard that you don’t keep that relationship open. My children know that if they do something that I don’t like and they share it with me, it’s not a big deal. I’ll give my opinion and then I’ll say, pass the potatoes. It’s, everything’s still in love, but I come from a strong Greek family, my husband’s Italian family, so we can rant and rave and lift the roof off and then give hugs and sit down and, Share an apple, it’s just the way it is.
Lori Esery: That’s right. And I also wanna mention, you’re talking about, you have both biological children, but you have adopted several children. So talk about that dynamic a little bit too. When did you first adopt, and how many adopted children do you have?
Sabrina Ciceri: Okay. I have four adopted children and we had the two oldest and then we decided we were gonna adopt from China. We had ran into some couples and we just felt like God was leading us down that road. So we got our daughter when she was 10 months old and she’s now almost 19 at at Gainesville now going to school. And then it’s weird that we are talking today because it popped up in a memory 10 years ago today, I was actually doing a weak detox at Hippocrates laying in a hammock, and I was just praying and God laid on me heavy that you’re gonna adopt more children. Of course, I called Joe right away and said, God just said, we’re gonna adopt more children. He’s like, whoa, wait a second. I’m not sure, and it wasn’t but maybe a week later that he said, I think we are supposed to adopt, but not internationally, or I think we’re supposed to foster and adopt. So we started looking down that road and we fostered for a little while, and then ended up within that year, we had a two year old and then two newborns. So they were a month apart. They were raised like twins. They were actually a month apart, but they are now this summer fixing to turn 10 years old the two little ones, and then the the other ones turning 12. So we’ve got the 31 25 year old and the almost 19 year old we call the bigs. And then the 10, 10 and 12 year olds we call the littles.
Lori Esery: Amazing. Another example,
Kelly Engelman: that is precious,
Lori Esery: right?
Sabrina Ciceri: Yep. I agree. Heart of gold.
Lori Esery: Is being a mom is that dynamic, difference with the different children like,
Sabrina Ciceri: no. We talk about this all the time. All six children are completely different too. They’re all different. The two little ones that we had as newborns and everybody’s like, oh, how cute are they twins? The little boy was white as a sheet, they one of my friends nickname him powder. And the, my other one was 25% Native American Indian, dark, thick hair and dark skin. It was the cutest thing, cuz I’d always get asked they look like total opposites, but they are yours. The terminology that we use is different because now we’ve realized there is no real kids are not kids, they’re all our children no matter what.
Lori Esery: Absolutely. Yes.
Kelly Engelman: So, Sabrina, let’s be real for a minute. It’s not easy to be a mom. It’s not easy to be a business owner. It’s not easy to be a caregiver. How do you keep life balanced? How, what are your strategies like, what do you lean into to continue to live your purpose and keep life balanced?
Sabrina Ciceri: Well, it’s a constant, Juggle. And a few years ago I found out I gave myself a little bit of a break between feeling like I constantly had to keep everything in perfect balance. So I was failing constantly at that. And then I realized with myself that I was gonna give myself these grace periods for different things. So I knew last year when I took this step to go to West Palm and leave Central Florida while my kids and family were there and go back and forth, that they knew and we talked as a family that was gonna be the year of hustle for mom, I had dreams and goals. I loved them and the care was gonna be there for them, but this was the little segment of my life where that was gonna be the focus. And I adjust that, going on like me and Joe, we are leaving for a week in May come hell or high water, we’re gone for a week we’re almost 30 years together now married, and we definitely take our time together. Because we’re more in love and happier now than we were 30 years ago. And it’s not about having all this time with him, it’s about when we do have our time, it’s quality we’re talking. And he’s a businessman too, so a lot of our time together’s talking about business so that works. But things will get outta balance. And just like recently tackling on a little bit of weight, feeling like I’ve not been taking care of myself. I’ve sat down and reevaluated so, Even in this next I committed and I have a personal trainer for the next 12 weeks, I’m taking a break in the middle of the day, four days a week I’m going to the gym. I will leave work a little bit, they’ll make it because now it’s time for me to put a little bit more time into me.
And then same thing with the kids. I’m prepared during the different stages when they hits 13, 14, I might have to back off of something else and then bring more time into them. I just think it’s constantly stopping to beat yourself up about having to have balance every single day because it’s impossible. There are days where work takes the lead and I give my husband nothing or my children just get a kiss goodnight or something. But I make that up on the next week, on the Thursday when I take ’em out and we have a night out on the town and go to the movies and everything. It’s just balance and I’m finally, it took me a long time okay, with not feeling guilty if I did work a lot or did other things, it’ll all come out in the wash as long as I continue to reevaluate and then reposition what I need to focus on that next season.
Lori Esery: That’s such great advice. Really. Really.
Kelly Engelman: Yeah. I think you just said a mouthful.
Lori Esery: Absolutely. Yeah. And I heard several things in that that really resonated with me. And I’m certain that as those are listening, there are certain things that you said that resonated with them, but you said stopping, the guilt. And also stopping that trying to find the perfect balance. Number one, you also said taking time to reevaluate and recognizing that as seasons change, you have to really look back in again to reevaluate and restructure, which you did. And then you also said something about communicating with your family. About what you have going on, and I really appreciate that you said, I told my kids, it’s the year of hustle, right? And we’re gonna hustle. And how important it is to communicate that to them, to your family members, this is what’s going on. So there’s, I mean, those are the things. There was so much that resonated in that, but that was, those were the things that I really heard you say, and I think it was such great advice and profound, I think we all need to be, reevaluating, reassessing, knowing that things aren’t gonna be perfect, knowing that we have to adjust our sails right with for the wind, we gotta adjust our sails for the wind, and we do have to communicate our direction to rally the troops. And our family is our troops. They are our supporters, they are the people that love us. And if we wanna be successful, we really need them to support and be aware of where we’re going so that they can be our co-pilots.
Kelly Engelman: What I heard her say, she didn’t say this in so many words, but what I heard her say is, life is gonna be. It’s gonna get outta balance. Expect that. Don’t be surprised, that life is gonna get outta balance. And we have to plan some time to reevaluate. Have that sit down, talk with yourself about, okay, what are your priorities? What are you trying to get accomplished? And then figure out how to make it happen. And that’s where the grit comes in. The grit never leaves you, it’s gonna be with you from here until death, that’s just who you are. And so I think it’s important that we give ourselves time and space to reevaluate and figure out, how to take that next step. Never losing faith.
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah, no, that’s great. And I see it even in the younger kids. I mean, in our older children we see that we’ve instilled, they’ve watched us work hard and they’ve taken it and applied it in their own life and they’ve seen us do it happily, not, oh my gosh, I hate going to work. They see us putting in these hours, but they know we love what we do. And even, I mean, my little ones, my muffins, my youngest, she’ll say, how was work today? Did you meet new people? Did you know she’s interested in it? Because she knows how interested I am in what I’m doing, and I don’t mind. I think a lot of people, and I’ve seen this before, where they. They’re not working as much because they wanna be home and be present with their child, but they’re on their phone or they’re playing video games, they’re not present. So when we are present with the kids, we’re present. It might not be as much time, but the time that is there we’re there. And the time that it’s not, they know what we’re doing and respect what we’re doing they get excited asking us about it here.
Lori Esery: And I also know how important your faith is to you. That’s something that you have shared also, as we have talked. Outside of this time together, that comes through as you talk about caring and loving people and wanting to be a servant and your servant heart. So I see that too.
Sabrina Ciceri: Thank you. That’s good. No, it’s we make it no secret in both of our businesses. Me and Joe, God is the center, he’s our source. He has created miracle upon miracle in our lives. Me and Joe both like I say, are not college graduates. We have successful businesses and we have, we’re blessed with love and finances in a lot of different ways. And it just came from, we both got into church together and it was simple that God had already given us all these things it was out there just trust and believe and take the steps and follow your desires. And things would come, and I’ve held him to it. God says this and I say, okay, you say it and I’m gonna just follow. And we’re both very sensitive, to trying to listen to that. Now, there are many many times and all strong women will say the same thing. Even just the other day, I was going into a hard meeting I stressed about it all week long going to this hard meeting, I’m like, I’m just can’t sleep, I’m rehearsing it in my head when I get up at two to pee or whatever, and then I remember the day of the meeting that morning, I actually, there’s a little secret place that I go to in my mind, like meditation, where I meet Jesus. And I usually, I have this dissension of get going into the guided meditation type of thing, which I’m sure many of you have experienced. But usually I’m stepping myself down mentally and I get there and I’ve got my little spot and then Jesus comes, it’s a whole little thing that I do to get myself to that place.
The first time ever in all these years, that morning of the meeting, I was so nervous, my chest was tight I was like, Ooh, I think I need to talk to Jesus. Of course I didn’t talk to him all week cause I was working all out in my head. And as I was going down, in my mind I was like stumbling, and when I got there, he was already there for the first time he was already waiting on me and I was like, oh my goodness, is this not symbolic? So he’s there all the time. If I just would go to him first instead trying to figure all this out and so then I just gave me a goosebumps and I was like, well, of course you’re already there, I just did some results falling down the stairs to get to so I can call for you and you’re just down there waiting.
Lori Esery: Oh, that is such a great story to end with.
Yeah, so incredible. That’s what I was gonna say. Such a great story, such inspiration to end with. I mean, how many times have we done that where we just keep ourselves spun up for no reason at all, realizing that all the, it’s all been worked out before we can even imagine, even better than we can imagine most of the time, right?
Sabrina Ciceri: Exactly.
Kelly Engelman: So Sabrina, as we’re ending, how can people locate immunity? Give us some contact information so that listeners can look you guys up, because your site, your website is incredible. You can’t look at that website and not want to be there.
Sabrina Ciceri: Thank you. Yeah, they can go to the website immunityhealth.com and we’ve got a lot of social media things going out really cool campaigns, get a drip, blue Monday, things that are special to immunity. I’m trying to think. I’m sure you can search the social media and find us, but going to the website, it took me months to put together the education manual that’s on there and it’s, I think 64 or five pages you could flip through and learn and read so much detail about what we do and understand the technology. But that’s where I think it start. And you can always email from there. And if you wanna talk to me or just email me anything, sabrina@immunityhealth.com. I would love to chat and meet new people. I never meet a stranger. I’m from the country,
Lori Esery: so she said a sabrina@immunityhealth.com right?
Sabrina Ciceri: Yeah, that’s how you could email me. But you can go to the website if you just wanna check us out.
Kelly Engelman: And tell us the website address.
Sabrina Ciceri: Immunityhealth.com.
Kelly Engelman: Perfect.
Lori Esery: Well thank you.
Sabrina Ciceri: In a couple months I’ll have, if it’s not one thing, it’s a mother.com. Pretty soon that’ll launch. The book will be there, but I’m gonna promote it a little bit on the Immunity Health site too, so be sure to look for that cuz it’s it’s motivational and it’s also got some funny, stories in it.
Lori Esery: Well, congratulations on the book. We can’t wait. I can’t wait to read it. We can’t wait to read it. Thank you so much for carving out time out of your busy but productive life. We really appreciated having you here today, Sabrina. You’re welcome back anytime on our podcast, such an inspiration for all of our listeners and so many words of encouragement that you shared today so, looking forward to people reaching out to you and like I said certainly hoping that we can get back together again for a future podcast with you.
Sabrina Ciceri: Oh, definitely. No, it’s an honor to hang out with you ladies. You guys have really helped me out in many, many ways. Things are, in my mind, things with the company you guys have where it felt like the puzzle pieces were there, but they were scattered. You’re impressed us greatly with how that’s coming together. Every week there’s just more positive change and it’s all been because of the influence and support from you guys, and we really appreciate it.
Lori Esery: Is our pleasure. Well, thank you so much on behalf of Kelly and I in Synergee. Thank you to all for listening to today’s podcast, and we can’t wait to have you back on our next one.
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